What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

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What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

Post by vectorized » Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:08 am

Subjective Question Time™:
What would be your ideal OVERKILL setup for fastest, most reliable data in the most places in the US while mobile?
What modems, routers, plans, software, antennas, cables? Pls share details.

*I'm not asking for suggestions. I want to know YOUR ideal, perfect world, I had all the money, setups.

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Re: What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

Post by Didneywhorl » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:47 pm

Quad Bonded 5G modems with all major carrier SIMs and mmWave support. Gigabit ethernet, no wifi. Directional antennas that can be articulated via remote and signal scan software.

Oh you meant a real existing setup? ;)

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Re: What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

Post by vectorized » Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:56 pm

Didneywhorl wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:47 pm
Quad Bonded 5G modems with all major carrier SIMs and mmWave support. Gigabit ethernet, no wifi. Directional antennas that can be articulated via remote and signal scan software.

Oh you meant a real existing setup? ;)
Nope, I literally wanted your ideal overkill fantasy setup. (but with real world parts. I think the remote directional antenna can totally be done, just probably more tedious than it's worth. First person to make it a service will make some big $$$).

What would you use for bonding. And what would be between the modems & the ethernet? What is your router of choice? I assume usb enclosures for the modems?

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Re: What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

Post by mtl26637 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:28 pm

As far as bonding goes, I'm fond of the Protectli Vault 4 running OMR. As far as modem setups, a modem in the usb 3 enclosure plugged into a WRT32X running rooter/goldenorb is by far the fastest/snappiest I've tested. I've not tested all of the different routers for rooter/GO but I've dabbled in my fair share and I LOVE how fast and snappy the WRT32X is. It's the fastest I've found so far.

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Re: What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

Post by vectorized » Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:39 pm

mtl26637 wrote:
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As far as bonding goes, I'm fond of the Protectli Vault 4 running OMR. As far as modem setups, a modem in the usb 3 enclosure plugged into a WRT32X running rooter/goldenorb is by far the fastest/snappiest I've tested. I've not tested all of the different routers for rooter/GO but I've dabbled in my fair share and I LOVE how fast and snappy the WRT32X is. It's the fastest I've found so far.
awesome info! I am loathe to spend that much on a device for OMR, but hey, if it's the most stable, that's good to know.

I doubt anyone has tested all the different routers, but if you had a resource with your opinions on the ones you have tested, that would be SUPER useful. Could you share any highlights from your experience so far, good and bad?

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Post by Didneywhorl » Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:48 pm

I've yet to find a cellular modem interface "gateway" router that is more popular for just plain working than the WG3526-P/NEXP1GO. It isn't a great "WiFi" router, but it does dang well with serving the cell modems internet connection.

The Multi-5G modem bonded setup in a dome does exist for super Yachts. I've spoken with the owner of the company, cool stuff they do. Money money. They use a proprietary system they designed from much trial and error. They are in France though they will sell their systems worldwide. The four modems and their 4 antennas each are in a 90-90-90-90 configuration so that you have coverage in all 360 degrees.

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Re: What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

Post by vectorized » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:41 pm

Didneywhorl wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:48 pm
I've yet to find a cellular modem interface "gateway" router that is more popular for just plain working than the WG3526-P/NEXP1GO. It isn't a great "WiFi" router, but it does dang well with serving the cell modems internet connection.

The Multi-5G modem bonded setup in a dome does exist for super Yachts. I've spoken with the owner of the company, cool stuff they do. Money money. They use a proprietary system they designed from much trial and error. They are in France though they will sell their systems worldwide. The four modems and their 4 antennas each are in a 90-90-90-90 configuration so that you have coverage in all 360 degrees.
nice. wish i had money :lol:

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Re: What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

Post by mtl26637 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:06 pm

vectorized wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:39 pm

I doubt anyone has tested all the different routers, but if you had a resource with your opinions on the ones you have tested, that would be SUPER useful. Could you share any highlights from your experience so far, good and bad?
Uh lets see. My first was the WE1326. She's still in use with an EM7565 with ATT sim. Pretty solid all around but didn't like the 100MB LAN limitation. Second round was the WE826-T2 running with a Dell DW5821e. Again, no gigabit lan but the modem is a screamer that most don't realize. IMO its the best bang for the buck out there but we warned it can be tricky to get going if you don't have a dell laptop to play with the different firmware versions needed and some seem to be passed around with locked comm. ports. I've now migrated it to an RBM33G which I also love if you are going for an external build. It has gigabit lan and 2 onboard mpcie ports and also usb3 port and also a wide range for external power sources. Next up is a recently purchased WG3526 which also has gigabit lan and internal mpcie but pretty sure limited to usb2 speeds but still is a great router and its running an EM20G. I also have an MR1100 running an ATT sim which is great but don't have quite the diversity as a rooter/GO setup has. Plus its tricky if you want to do with an external setup and I'm not fond of the external antenna setups on it either. Its good if you live close to the tower I suppose. But lastly is my WRT32X running rooter/GO with an RM502Q-AE and Tmo sim. in an external enclosure. That thing blows all of the above away when it comes to quickness and its not due to the modem. I've swapped everything around in almost every provider/combination possible and its just 'snappy'. All of the above feeding the Protectli Vault 4 running OMR and I have no worries about 'slow internet' to say the least. The WRT32X was originally purchased for my main OMR router but it maxed out around the 200-250MB DL range so I went to the protectli for OMR and retired the WRT32X to run GO and its worked great.

Edit: The above reference to 200-250MB should actually read 200-250 Mbps.

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Re: What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

Post by vectorized » Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:39 am

mtl26637 wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:06 pm
Uh lets see....
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I love the idea of the RBM33G, but I've heard people have SO MUCH trouble w/ getting either ROOTer or OpenWRT on it. Same for you?

I've been thinking of getting a GL.iNet router, running rooter/GO w/ a 502Q-AE via USB enclosure. Ideally didnt wanna pay for 5g since idk if i'll be able to use it much, but might as well plan ahead. Just had Dairyman whip up a firmware for the GL-S1300. (and i wanna pair it with a cat 16 or cat 12 card too)

You're making me rethink the outdoor enclosure, but I will be in an RV, w/ a rooftop antenna directly connected to the modems. I should be ok i think.

Dang. WRT32X is def more than I wanted to spend on router, but my gf wants me to make this as bulletproof as possible... I might have to. We will both be working remotely and I'll be gaming.

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Re: What's your ideal OVERKILL setup?

Post by mtl26637 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:59 am

vectorized wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:39 am
I love the idea of the RBM33G, but I've heard people have SO MUCH trouble w/ getting either ROOTer or OpenWRT on it. Same for you?
No trouble here after figuring out what is trying to get accomplished. If you know how to use ssh and have a spare router around with rooter/GO installed you should be good to go. I also used a program called WinSCP to upload the firmware. If you have a decent knowledge of networking you should be fine. There is a post around here where I linked to some posts from 'BNHF' on the process. The RBM33G is just a router board so you would need to throw it inside some type of enclosure but it's probably my fav all around. The WRT32X is probably just overkill, I mentioned it cause I couldn't believe how quick it seemed compared to everything I'd previously used.



I've been thinking of getting a GL.iNet router, running rooter/GO w/ a 502Q-AE via USB enclosure. Ideally didnt wanna pay for 5g since idk if i'll be able to use it much, but might as well plan ahead. Just had Dairyman whip up a firmware for the GL-S1300. (and i wanna pair it with a cat 16 or cat 12 card too)
The only GL-iNet device I've tested is the MT300N-V2 which is perfect for those small setups. Very compact and handy to have as a spare. I don't know much about any of their other products. Be aware that if your going all out with the modem (RM50xQ-AE) then you might make sure your device is capable of USB3. I don't know of any routers that are capable of USB3 on the internal modem slots. Maybe the WG1608 but that is one device i've not tested. I like to use the external usb3 enclosure from this site and plug into the routers usb3 port. Yes USB2 is capable of 480mbps theoretically but meh, I still see it as a potential limitation for the RM50xQ-AE. Plus the newer style usb3 enclosure from this site fits the longer modems and has options for even additional external power supplies ranging from 5v-27v or thereabouts. That way you can just tap into your router's supply and have one large supply to run it all.

Dang. WRT32X is def more than I wanted to spend on router, but my gf wants me to make this as bulletproof as possible... I might have to. We will both be working remotely and I'll be gaming.
I got lucky, I found mine through an online walmart retailer for $150 new. At the time I had to have something to replace my rpi4 OMR rig so thats how it started. It since was reflashed with rooter/GO and I've been very happy with it. I've seemed to always have issues with power related dropouts on about all the devices for some reason or the other but those issues seemed to have disappeared with the WRT32X for whatever reason. Doesn't make a bit of sense but it is what it is, LOL.

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