Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

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Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by Evilkaneevel87 » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:00 am

Hello all. I am new here. I stumbled on this site by accident, and have been looking and reading for a few days now. To say I am overwhelmed is an understatement, lol. Anyway. We live in a rural area. We used both Hughes net and Viasat in the past and have been severely disappointed in both. We gave a local company a try back about June. They use a cell based modem/router which runs on the ATT network. Att is terrible in our area. Verizon work great, and the coverage map of Tmobile looks promising.

I guess what I am getting around to, what is the best option for me? I see all the routers/modems etc. There has to be a better option. We are only 15 minutes from a bigger city, but our area is "remote". Just trying to have something better for streaming, occasional gaming for my 12 year old, and web surfing.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I am decently tech savy. So I can usually do most things with a little instruction. Thanks,

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Re: Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by Dr-BroadBand » Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:26 am

The hardware is the easy part. The trick is getting a SIM/Data Plan

The cheapest way is to get a SIM for an iPad

Verizon has the best network but has hardest to get on to their network

T-Mobile band 71, 600MHz works the best for rural settings

Use https://www.cellmapper.net to help you map out your best options.
Click on the dots to see which way the tower is pointed and what band they are using.

What cell phone and carrier are you using now?

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Re: Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by Didneywhorl » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:09 pm

T mobile is likely the easiest for getting on the network with your own gear. Verizon is a pain, but not un-doable.


My favorite router modem setup right now is the WiFiX NEXR5GO router with a Sierra Wireless EM7565 modem. Or if you want/need bands 14 AND 71 then the Sierra EM7411 is the one. It has great wifi that is faster than the LAN ports.

If you want gigabit LAN ports, then the WiFiX WG3526-P is my go to. The Wifi is meh, in speeds, but I use dedicated wifi access points on mine anyway. Same modems.

If you want to go with Verizon, you may be better with the Quectel modems. The EM12G is the same level of modem as the Sierra EM7565.

Parts list to look over:
https://ltefix.com/shop/routers/lte-routers/wg3526-p/
https://ltefix.com/shop/pcie-m-2/mini-p ... card-slot/
https://ltefix.com/shop/modems/sierra-w ... m-2-modem/
1 of these: https://ltefix.com/shop/cables/pigtail- ... ail-cable/
and 1 of these: https://ltefix.com/shop/cables/pigtail- ... ail-cable/

You can also have a cellular site survey done for your location, by LTEFix: https://ltefix.com/shop/tower-survey/ce ... y-reports/

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Re: Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by Dr-BroadBand » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:49 pm

You may also want to see if T-Mobile home internet is in your area.

https://www.t-mobile.com/isp/eligibility

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Re: Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by toddw » Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:31 pm

I'm also in a rural area and can attest to T-Mobile Band 71. I have not found better upload speeds than this band unless I'm closer to town, so in a WFH scenario, its has been key for me. I also run the 7411 on it and will watch it often carrier aggregate band 71 and 66 yielding some nice speeds at low latency.

Just got two NEXR5GO's for testing and quite happy with the build quality and wifi performance.

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Re: Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by gscheb » Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:51 pm

toddw wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:31 pm
I'm also in a rural area and can attest to T-Mobile Band 71. I have not found better upload speeds than this band unless I'm closer to town, so in a WFH scenario, its has been key for me. I also run the 7411 on it and will watch it often carrier aggregate band 71 and 66 yielding some nice speeds at low latency.

Just got two NEXR5GO's for testing and quite happy with the build quality and wifi performance.
Hello,
Confused about EM7411 and carrier aggregation. How many bands does it combine? Can it combine bands 2, 12, 71 for T-Mobile.

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Re: Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by Didneywhorl » Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:36 pm

The EM7411 can only aggregate 2 bands, but can do so in the uplink side as well as the downlink side.

Here are the specs for the EM7411, it has the downlink CA combos listed, as well as uplink.
41113694 EM7411 Product Specification r2.pdf
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Re: Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by Evilkaneevel87 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:21 am

Dr-BroadBand wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:49 pm
You may also want to see if T-Mobile home internet is in your area.

https://www.t-mobile.com/isp/eligibility

Just checked, their home internet isnt available in our area yet. Its honestly insane. With how close we are to the "big city", we can't get anything in our area.

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Re: Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by Evilkaneevel87 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:55 am

Dr-BroadBand wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:26 am
The hardware is the easy part. The trick is getting a SIM/Data Plan

The cheapest way is to get a SIM for an iPad

Verizon has the best network but has hardest to get on to their network

T-Mobile band 71, 600MHz works the best for rural settings

Use https://www.cellmapper.net to help you map out your best options.
Click on the dots to see which way the tower is pointed and what band they are using.

What cell phone and carrier are you using now?

I have att, my fiance has Verizon. WIth att, im lucky to get one "bar" of service in my house and 2 outside. Verizon is great down there, and Tmobile coverage map looks promising. We also have internet through a local rural provider which uses ATT towers. RIght now I dont know what is going on with the network. It has been terrible. Never really got over 6mbps Down and 2mbps up. Right now im getting .2 and .1. That is with the ookla speed test on my iphone

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Re: Newbie Here, trying to get Rural Connectivity

Post by Evilkaneevel87 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:57 am

I have a modem (no name on it, just c4r400) that I purchased when we signed up with the rural provider. It currently is on the ATT network. The owner is supposed to be bringing me a "business class" router tonight.

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